tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4172451149432147710.post6748476643771645612..comments2023-05-10T10:41:32.689-04:00Comments on Against the Greater Light: A Quick Thought on Jeremy RunnellsAlexhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/14724409661360473452noreply@blogger.comBlogger9125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4172451149432147710.post-64295558976388519932016-05-01T14:01:41.631-04:002016-05-01T14:01:41.631-04:00Yeah, I also thought that when they have a church ...Yeah, I also thought that when they have a church court, 6 of the high counsellors are supposed to be assigned to help the accused. How can they at all be effective if they know nothing of the case. Plus, in this case, he had nobody. He was on his own. Either they didn't get to that part of assigning people to speak for him, or they didn't follow proper procedure. I think he resigned before getting to that part, but like I said, there's no way they could've been at all helpful knowing nothing of his case. NearKolobitenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4172451149432147710.post-11520584710229674352016-05-01T11:54:25.231-04:002016-05-01T11:54:25.231-04:00"He had to know that none of them would have ..."He had to know that none of them would have read the letter, because they didn't want to risk losing their testimonies and standing in the church, as well as potentially their wives, children, and eternal salvation."<br /><br />That might be one of the saddest parts about all this, to be honest.Alexhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14724409661360473452noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4172451149432147710.post-18882603775629148192016-05-01T11:50:32.987-04:002016-05-01T11:50:32.987-04:00I also wish him well.
Going in, he had to have k...I also wish him well. <br /><br />Going in, he had to have known what the outcome would be. He had to know that none of them would have read the letter, because they didn't want to risk losing their testimonies and standing in the church, as well as potentially their wives, children, and eternal salvation.<br /><br />As Jeremy said, to the church, this disciplinary council leads to spiritual execution. You would think he could know the exact charges in advance so he could prepare an answer to them. Despite that, I think he did a really good job of presenting his case. Isn't it amazing that one man with a few questions can cause so much damage to a big, powerful organization?<br /><br />Now that it's over, I hope he'll get back to finishing his new website and book that he promised in his Mormon Stories interview to have up and going in March 2016. NearKolobitenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4172451149432147710.post-31057884462343065922016-04-30T04:17:37.699-04:002016-04-30T04:17:37.699-04:00I think it's the church's inability/refusa...I think it's the church's inability/refusal to answer them that's more important. I think a lot of members know about a lot of problems with the church, even if it's stuffed back in a corner of their psyches. But apostles keep assuring us that there ARE answers and I think Jeremy's repeatedly failed attempts to GET those answers might cause a few people's gears to start turning.Alexhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14724409661360473452noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4172451149432147710.post-8668911648222654692016-04-30T01:23:32.148-04:002016-04-30T01:23:32.148-04:00Jeremy is awesome. I hope more TBMs become aware o...Jeremy is awesome. I hope more TBMs become aware of his questions and the church's inability to answer them. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4172451149432147710.post-71118943815713989412016-04-21T01:41:06.937-04:002016-04-21T01:41:06.937-04:00I would agree that the church tends to expect grov...I would agree that the church tends to expect groveling. But trying yo drive someone to the point of groveling doesn't seem very Christlike to me. Which is why it was cool that Jeremy said he excommunicated the church.Alexhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14724409661360473452noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4172451149432147710.post-62151173878525233082016-04-20T22:20:24.686-04:002016-04-20T22:20:24.686-04:00I watched the Video and have listened to his other...I watched the Video and have listened to his other interviews and I have to say that he was very well spoken, got his point across and made the higher ups at his Church Court look foolish. They already had their minds made up. They didn't even try to answer his questions. I think they were stunned that he was as prepared as he was. They were not. I think most of them think that if it gets to that point of a Church Court the person will grovel and give in. I am so glad that people are taking a stand against that. Congrats to Jeremy. The SP surely should have let him have his interpreter. Jon Marshallhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00072833637378268130noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4172451149432147710.post-69970769489230917972016-04-18T11:53:56.648-04:002016-04-18T11:53:56.648-04:00Yes! An excellent point! I mean, even if the outc...Yes! An excellent point! I mean, even if the outcome were pre-determined, just for courtesy's sake....<br /><br />Apparently members with questions don't deserve courtesy. Alexhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14724409661360473452noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4172451149432147710.post-87475906308181136112016-04-18T06:29:26.637-04:002016-04-18T06:29:26.637-04:00Also, why would they deny Runnells an interpreter ...Also, why would they deny Runnells an interpreter given that he is hearing impaired?<br /><br />Unless the outcome had already been pre-determined.Stephan E. FitzRandoph https://www.blogger.com/profile/14249087864131889059noreply@blogger.com