tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4172451149432147710.post5423668805176631997..comments2023-05-10T10:41:32.689-04:00Comments on Against the Greater Light: Mosiah 8: The Mystery of the JareditesAlexhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/14724409661360473452noreply@blogger.comBlogger2125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4172451149432147710.post-76462518105861225622013-07-25T22:56:19.099-04:002013-07-25T22:56:19.099-04:00Yeah, I was also kind of impressed with Joseph'...Yeah, I was also kind of impressed with Joseph's subtlety when praising his own calling as a seer. In earlier chapters, he's almost come out and said "HAY GUYS I'M LIKE THE NEW BIG PROPHET THING IT SAYS SO HERE IN MY BOOK." This time, it takes a little bit more to realize he's talking about himself.<br /><br />I also remember being taught this chapter in seminary and going into detail over the delineations between a prophet, a seer and a revelator. The seminary teacher said we should know what we're sustaining the prophet for when we sustain him in general conference. But I think the definition of "sustain" would have been a more important thing to study.Alexhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14724409661360473452noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4172451149432147710.post-69548564315419101142013-07-25T08:32:35.605-04:002013-07-25T08:32:35.605-04:00This time, I decided to actually read the chapter ...This time, I decided to actually read the chapter before reading your commentary. <br /><br />The thing that stuck out to me was also the stuff about prophets and seers. I was waiting for Ammon to predict that in the future god would raise up a great translating prophet who would share the name of his own father, have the same name of one of the sons of Lehi, and be named after the son of Jacob who was sold into Egypt. This mighty seer would be the greatest of all seers and would be the most important man to ever live on the earth, save Christ himself. And then, Limhi would stupidly add something about how he himself was a descendent of Lehi.<br /><br />The first presidency and twelve apostles are sustained as "prophets, seers, and revelators." Do you think they each get their own little seer stone to carry around in their pocket? They are also supposed to be "special witnesses" of Christ, but I have never once in my lifetime heard one of them say they have seen him with their physical eyes. I wonder how long it takes them after they are made an apostle to figure out that they won't ever see Christ and that it's all bull. Then they have to spend the rest of their lives lying to and misleading the people, oh and being monetarily supported by them. I have personally talked with and shaken the hand of 3 of them at different times, in the past 12 years or so, 2 of them outside of church settings. I felt nothing at all special about any of them, and that was when I was still trying to force myself to believe.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com